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How about a "no getting in the country list?" Perhaps they could call it "an immigration policy." Wow, there's a novel concept!
Schumer pledged to make ID checks on trains a priority.
WOW
Mr Schumer..........when Arizona said it wanted to Check ID's after
LEGALLY Stopping someone for OTHER VIOLATIONS YOU CALLED IT RACISTS
and now YOU want to check ID's on Trains without ANY REASON to suspect
someone..........Talk about the DEMORAT DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!!!
I agree with you 100%... That was also my response to this suggestion.
But whatever you do Schumer, Dems - don't ask people for their ID before they vote.
I propose a 'no-vote' list and we put Shumer at the top of it.......
i agree but he's right on this matter.
No, he isn't. This is how airline security started, and we have already had one member of the government say that the "enhanced pat-downs" should be used on trains and ferries.
The real solution to this, as with airline security, is behavior profiling. It works for law enforcement, it will work for transportation security.
I also like to repeat the comment on the hypocrisy on this ID thing. How is this fundamentally different from having to have an "internal passport" like the good ol' Soviets had? Their excuse was "security" too.
The terrorists of the world love Schumer and the democrats. The terrorists know that the democrats will squander more money in the name of security than they ever could by attacking.
No, only the 'facade' of national security, the Dems could give a sh !t less about real security, all they do is pander to their own selfish and political whims.
No, only the 'facade' of security of the US..........they could give a sh !t less about true security, they just pander.
Precisely!
exactly right
Schumer a liberal idiot. The plan was to derail a train as it was going over an overpass. You do not ride a train to do. You wreck or blow up the track
So I guess all the terrorist attacks that have happened on trains (and not to outside equipment) did not really happen?
Schumer is a Government Terrorist who wants you to be afraid of your own shadow so he can tell you where you can go, & when you can speak, & certainly doesn't want you to have a firearm to defense YOURSELF.. This may shock you, but you're actually going to die from something.. Odds of it being cancer are higher than it being from a terrorist, yet you walk around like a frightened sheep looking for daddy politician to save you from the bogey monsters..
So there is planning to destroy bridges while trains are going over them, but because other train bombings have been by people on the train we don't have to worry? The point is that screening passengers isn't going to do as much good as it does for airplanes since anyone can attack a train on the ground. It's harder to hit something thousands of feet in the air. Sure, you can go ahead and start making a no ride list, but will it make anyone any safer? No.
I thought the threat to the trains had to do with their infrastructure - tracks, switches, etc.? Train station security is going to end up just like airports....
Yeah, why would they have targets outside of just the infrastructure? Why would they want to ki ll passengers directly, that would just be messy? You should probably think before you type.
Isn't Amtrak broke already?.....Does Chickie Schumer really think this won't be a fiscal burden?
Then we'll hear the usual "unintended consequences" of no one riding the gleaming new high speed rail lines...
Libs....can't live with 'em......and I'm fine with that...
He is a democrat. Fiscal burdens for "causes" are of no concern.
And the feds just threw $2 billion around the Northeast for high speed rail (originally meant for Florida which turned it down because of the potential added costs to the state.)
I can derail a train almost anywhere in the
US with almost no chance of getting caught but if I ride a train I need a
passport? Are you kidding? Are these people for real or did they
study at a special institute for the politically arcane. Let me guess,
Osama had a copy of "Silver Streak" in his blue-ray player.
And here it comes. The TSA or some gov
security requiring people be groped or subjected to being photographed
naked rather than use common sense and profiling. Another excuse to grow
the gov and then create a unionized TSA for voting Democrats and
laundering taxpayer's money.
Barney Frwank has been insisting on full-grope inspections performed by the Capitol Police when members of the House enter.
It is amazing that a democrat is insisting a person show an ID before getting on a train but it is a major inconveinence and decsrimatory against seniors and minorities to require them to have an ID in order to vote.
BINGO Gary; succinct and spot-on correct !!
I believe the "No Ride List" and the "No Fly List" are abrogating the Fifth Amendment. A person on this list has no right or ability to know if they are on the list. They have no way to contest their inclusion on the list. There is no due process of law in this list. Anyone can be included on this list, if just one single person tells the FBI the wrong thing about you.
Example: Your neighbor does not like you, so he calls the FBI Hotline and tells them you said you wanted to blow up a school. Eric Holder can have you placed on this list based on a single, unsubstantiated tip. You do not know it, but you have just lost the ability to board an airplane.
Now Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) wants to deny you access to rail transport as well. All based on a single, tip. You have committed no crime, yet you are denied the ability to use mass transit. You cannot appeal your inclusion on the list. You cannot go to court and clear your name. You have NO rights when it comes to this list. How is that Constitutional?
The Fifth Amendment states, in part "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". To remove freedoms, the government must allow you DUE PROCESS OF LAW, which means a trial. You MUST be convicted of a crime to have your liberty interfered with. This list completely abrogates the requirement. They take away your freedom to use basic transportation services, without the right of redress.
There is no way to hold the government accountable for this list. The public does not know what the criteria is for people to be placed on this list. The public does not know who is on it. Basically, this is a way to strip away freedoms, without the public's knowledge.
Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) has also introduced legislation to prevent people from purchasing firearms that are on this list. The Terror Watch List is being used to slowly strip away freedom.
The Terrorist Watch List has already been used to take away ANY health care benefits to people effected by the World Trade Center attack on 9/11. Could this be expanded to include health care benefits under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare)? Could you eventually be denied health care because your neighbor does not like you?
Do you really want the government to have the power to take away your freedom to board an airplane, board a train, obtain access to health care or purchase a firearm, without being able to do a single thing about it, when you have committed no crime? This list has over a million names on it now, could yours be next?
That's the absolute truth!
Thank you
Good Post. I am probably on the "list". I raise/own horses...a very particular breed (that the moderator keeps zapping me for mentioning). I have friends who own the same type of horses and we communicate via phone and internet about our horses...often citing them by name. Everytime I fly, have to go through "special handling", seems a number of others with these beautiful ancient bloodlines go through the same at airports. The breed is a desert bred type and moderator does not allow me to say... This is so stupid..
Amtrak has already been on life support and this will surely put the nail in the coffin, oh wait government does not needt to worrry they just get a new printing press and get a second shift going wtih turbo tax cheat Timmy overseeing it. For god sake get some people in to office with a brain.
More population control, less liberty. Organized crime government advances it's control over you!
expanding mass transit, which allows people
who dont have other methods of transportation to travel the country, is
not population control. giving people easier access to move about the
country is not restricting them
but restricting peoples access to it is a form of control...legalize cannabis
you have my complete and utter agreement
there my friend. cannabis is not illegal because it is a dangerous drug.
it is not. cannabis is illegal because re-legalizing it would take
billions of dollars away from alcohol, tobacco, cotton etc etc. hemp is
literally the most useful crop in the world
The American Left Democrats Liberals Progressives Socialists Satanists Sorosists Atheists Abortionists Communists Elitists Globalists Fascists Marxists "Hopeless and Changeless".Great Company You Guys Keep.
Ah The Good Old Days When Sorosist Was A Liver Disease.
Yeah, I try to point that out to lost close family and friends that the Dems are in bed with a lot of the groups and working with their people that you listed.
let's see an i.d. to ride the train but no i.d. to prove your not in the country
illegal, so you can vote. hmm almost sounds like a double standard. chuck's
one of the biggest phonys that the sheep keep electing over and over and...
umm please show me where illegals are voting
en masse in federal elections. and please dont point me to an article
to some city in california letting illegals vote in city elections,
cities can do what they want. states rights right?
Oh great, so now nuns, Swedish grannies, war
veterans, and 5 year old children are going to be sexually assaulted
just to ride a train, while the Muzzies will be allowed to "pat
themselves gently down" and Amtrak is doing so wonderfully economically
as well! What could go wrong!?
What about the illegal immigrants are they going to have to show ID as well? It was such a big uproar when Arizona wanted to bring in a law that ask for ID to be shown and all the democrats/liberals got so offended by that ruling but we innocent riders have to show ID to ride the trains... Its a double standard here.. Illegals seem to have more priviledges than lawful citizens. What is America coming to? We have to show ID and illegals are protected. Things are really upside down in this country. We are being treated like criminals where as illegals have all the rights.
amtrak is in the red because they
overextended themselves to provide a service to rural areas. in the
heavily metropolitan areas (which they are proposing to enhance and
improve) they actually turn a pretty fair profit
If you lose more on the non-profitable runs than you make on the profitable runs, you still have loser.
Hmmmm. Please expand. My recollection is that
a handful of runs on the eastern seaboard break even or turn a profit,
but that's it. I know the run between Milwaukee and Chicago is constant
loser.
thats what im talking about. runs that
connect major metropolitan areas (sorry to any
milwaukeans...milwaukites...milwaukers?) but milwaukee is not a major
metropolitan destination. thats why they were trying to tie tampa and
orlando and the bigger sections of the eastern seaboard, which is where
the profits are
Like I said, please give specific examples.
The ONLY profitable runs that I am aware of are between the NY and DC
areas. I said Milwaukee and CHICAGO. We generally consider Chicago to be
a major metropolitan area, with a very substantial commuter presence
between the 2 cities.
Another 10% of the population working for the Federal Government in defense of Der Fatherland!
If schummer suggested it, translate to mean create a new government agency and more regulation. Emanuel said it best, qoting Sual Alinski, I think, "don't let a grisis go to waste".
More union workers more liberal voters less train riders. It has to work because Shumer thought of it.
Announcing a high speed train project from Detroit to Chicago? That is really funny!
First of all, most of the capable people have already left Detroit and those remaining don't have a pot to p in or a window to throw from.
As for clown boy Schumer, his tactic of trying to keep Al Qaeda off a is like trying to keep track of roaches after they are in the house. If this moron, and the rest of the democrats, were even a bit serious aout terrorists, they would support Arizona's immigration laws and close the borders and do their jobs of defending the laws of this country and get tough on immigration.
Its very simple, protect the country by not letting anyone of middle eastern decent into the country until they, collectively, work out their issues. When the good guys find they can't come in, they will begin cleaning house in their own country.
As for the Mexican border, a couple dozen A-10 Warthogs could do wonders.